Sunday, August 11, 2013

Points to Ponder 130811

Shalom:

This is another of those continuing blogs wherein we will consider various points of scripture from time to time whose title will vary only on date.  The main point will be to give us some things to think about that, possibly, we might not have considered before.  Hopefully we will come back and re-publish should we get enough comments and have to re-write the blog.  Anyway, today's blog concerns "The New Jerusalem" as described in both TaNaKh (what Christians call 'The Old Testament' - it isn't old at all) and the New Testament.  Let us begin with some scripture references to this and then move on to a discussion:


Zechariah 2:5-9 I looked up, and I saw a man holding a measuring line. 6”Where are you going?” I asked.  “To measure Jerusalem,’ he replied, “to see how long and wide it is to be.” 7But the angel who talked with me came forward, and another angel came forward to meet him.  8The former said to him, “Run to that young man and tell him: “Jerusalem shall be peopled as a city without walls, so many shall be the men and cattle it contains.  9And I Myself – declares HaShem – will be a wall of fire all around it, and I will be a glory inside it.”

Revelation 22:10-21 the New Jerusalem is square, each wall is 12,000 furlongs (about 1,500 miles), 144 cubits thick (about 65 meters) and with 12 gates, three on each side with the names of the 12 apostles on the 12 gates, each gate made from a single pearl, with streets of pure gold.  The rest of Chapters 22 and 23 finish with the description of the New Jerusalem and its inhabitants.  

There are a couple of Wikipedia passages on the subject, neither of which were obviously written by Jewish authors but are, nevertheless, fairly informative.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jerusalem and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_eschatology#New_Jerusalem both are fairly well written and, if printed out, might take a few pages.  On the other hand, both also have quite a few links should you have any questions.   What I have found interesting is that TaNaKh teaches that the New Jerusalem will not have walls while most (all?) other sources seem to say that it will have walls of varying lengths and depths.  Being a Jew I follow TaNaKh and I have to wonder why the New Testament would change Zechariah's prophecy and say that there would be a walled city.

Joseph Smith (Mormonism) goes even further and declares that only 144,000 Mormons would be in that city, not the original 144,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel as stated in The Revelation to John in The New Testament.  This has proven to be a bit of a problem since there are now way more than 144,000 Mormons in the world and all of them want in the New Jerusalem.  So they have had to come up with an explanation that says something like the founders and the most holy Mormons would be there and that "some" of the newbies would be there if they give enough money and live a righteous life and all of that.  After all, there has to be some kind of bait to get new fish on the hook.

OK, enough smarm and back to the topic.  Why did John the Apostle change the original prophecy in the first place?  Truth?  I have no idea and can only guess and that would not even be and educated guess.  But, on the surface, it would be that almost everyone else did the same thing; a city with walls was the accepted thought process.  If you have any ideas, let me know.

Shalom,
Yaakov

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